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Apple CEO Steve Jobs announces that the iPhone 3G will sell worldwide for $US199 -- pricing expected to translate to less than $AUD250.

Will the iPhone kill the iPod?

Dan Warne24 June 2008, 10:26 AM

Apple may be doing what the rest of the electronics industry has so far been unable to do: kill off the iPod.


Apple's charismatic CEO Steve Jobs has announced he will sell the iPhone worldwide for $US199 — a move that he said would make the iPhone more affordable and therefore more able to compete for all mobile users' business rather than just the high-end.

But Apple's premium pricing of the first-generation iPhone was no mistake. Apple knew that if its most powerful iPod — the iPhone — was cheaper than other iPods, consumers would be confused and ultimately iPods would appear to be devalued.

After Steve Jobs was unceremoniously dumped from Apple in the 90s by John Scully, the CEO he appointed, Apple's product lines were a mess — a plethora of similar-looking models of Mac, with high prices and unclear focus. But when Jobs was brought back to save the company from financial collapse, he ditched most of those products and developed a finely honed product line, with just one product for each group of customers.

This thinking has carried through to the iPod line — until now. Before, for people who really wanted to spend the smallest amount of money possible on a music player, there was the screenless Shuffle — with the cool-factor of being the world's smallest music player, built into an anodised aluminium clip. For people that mainly wanted pocketable music-on-the-go, there was the Nano. If you had tens of gigabytes of music, the hard-drive based iPod Classic with capacity of up to 160GB fitted the bill. And for the ultimate in touch-screen interface, melded with up to 32GB of solid state storage, the Touch was the premium model.

Now, the iPhone will be "cheaper" than most of them, despite having the best features. An 8GB iPhone will, in fact, end up costing about the same amount as an iPod Nano -- a strategy that's clearly designed to attack other smartphone companies, but may, along the way, kill off sales of the iPod.

For Apple, this gamble may be worth it. It has sold tens of millions of iPods and — although it would never admit as much — iPod sales are likely to be slowing from their initial frenzied pace.

Meanwhile, the addressable market for mobile phone users is vast, and, in many parts of the world, the first regular internet access many people will ever have may be through their mobile phone. The iPhone, with its desktop-grade web browser and mobile broadband connectivity, is better positioned to cash in on this opportunity than handsets from any other manufacturer.

Apple is currently targeting Blackberry, which holds a 42% market share of smartphones in the US, but as it pushes the initial price for the iPhone lower and lower, it will start targeting Nokia, which, in many parts of the world has over 50% share of all mobile phone sales.

Of course, the iPhone is not really cheaper than an iPod. It is, in fact, the most expensive iPod ever made, with a real cost price of somewhere between $500 and $900, depending on the model, according to telco analysts.

To get the sub-$250 price (the final Australian price has not yet been announced), you'll have to sign up to a two year mobile phone contract with a telco, with a portion of your monthly fee paying off the balance of the cost of the device. What Steve Jobs is banking on is that consumers are already used to signing up for a contract every couple of years to renew their handsets — and the iPhone will be a great reason for many people to recontract. Taking a new contract doesn’t necessarily mean spending more for a plan, though the iPhone plans are expected to be more expensive due to the HSDPA download allowances bundled in to cover internet access on the iPhone.

The other market Apple is targeting with a cheaper iPhone is Windows users. Its new MobileMe service, which syncs calendars, contacts, tasks, photos and more over the air, without the user having to plug the iPhone into a computer, works with Microsoft Outlook and Windows. Apple hopes that people are so impressed with how well MobileMe and the iPhone works that they will consider a Mac for their next computer purchase — a strategy that must be worrying Microsoft, with its latest release of Windows — Vista — roundly declared a stilllborn failure by reviewers and users.

And, in Australia — a market that is crazy about satellite navigation — the new iPhone 3G's inbuilt GPS receiver is expected to be warmly received by consumers as well. This is a significant benefit over the iPod Touch, which does not have GPS, and is unlikely to get it, as such a capability relies on having mobile-network data access all the time — not just at WiFi hotspots — in order to download up-to-date maps. "Being a HSDPA device with GPS, coupled with Apple's renowned design, the iPhone 3G will see strong initial demand and by the end of 2012 IDC expects Apple to have shipped in excess of 1.31M iPhones to Australia," says Mark Novosel, telecomunications market analyst for IDC.

Naturally, no-one's game to suggest that the iPod will die-off altogether any time soon. There will always be a market for small iPod devices for jogging, leave-in-the-car iPods for car entertainment and so on. But it's likely that the iPhone may become the replacement for many people's iPod and mobile phone — bad news for other handset makers. After all, as Steve Jobs said at the recent Apple Worldwide Developer Conference in San Francisco, the iPhone is, after all, "Apple's best iPod ever".


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Wazza (User):

Yep - this was the argument I had with some colleagues in the UK sometime ago when iPhone Generation 1 was announced. Without taking in to account any of the real technical details, these Applephiles said "I already have an iPod. Don't need a new one yet...."

24 June 2008, 10:52 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

I think that ey would buy it regardless.

24 June 2008, 11:12 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TurnyQ (New user):

In order to get an iPhone in the U.S., you have to activate it at the AT&T store. This means you have to have a contract with them. I, like many others, will not be dropping my carrier to go with AT&T. With this as the case, how could the iPhone ever replace the iPod. I just don't see it.

24 June 2008, 11:11 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Administrator):

Unfortunately for you guys, that's a US-centric problem... other countries have multiple carriers for the iPhone. For example, Australia has Optus, Vodafone and (probably, though not yet formally announced) Telstra.

24 June 2008, 2:47 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

planb24seven (New user):

this, is not possible, just think of how many people don't have or want phones, and who just want an ipod, or maybe they do want a phone, but a different phone than the iphone, so they could have the ipod and a different phone, the iphone cannot kill the ipod

24 June 2008, 11:51 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

todd_h86 (Cornerstone member):

Apple wont kill off the Ipod.... How freakin stupid would that be! Sure it may look cheaper to buy the iphone, but I know many many people who would prefer to have a seperate a/v player and phone, not to mention actually be able to use the iphone as a phone and not have to worry about syncing songs and making sure battery is full from watching a movie on it. They are both two different markets, its like Apple saying they will shut down production of their computers because the iphone runs OSX.... we can only hope....

24 June 2008, 12:55 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Nikki (New user):

I can see that there may be more excitement about a 3G iPhone in the US, but many Aussies already own HSDPA enabled phones with good browsers.

I'm not an iPod classic owner but I also can't imagine they think a 16Gb iPhone would in any way replace the 80 or 160Gb iPods.

Those who buy Apple everything will always continue to do so, others hopefully will wait and see, once Optus and Vodafone have their HSDPA networks up and running by year end as well.

I know, waiting for new gadgets sounds like a silly idea...

24 June 2008, 1:04 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

"Of course, the iPhone is not really cheaper than an iPod. It is, in fact, the most expensive iPod ever made, with a real cost price of somewhere between $500 and $900, depending on the model, according to telco analysts."

Or if you believe the cost approximation someone else did, it's about $100 of parts. Given labor and shipping costs also have to be included, I would think that puts it's final hardware cost at around $150US.
If you then add in the software cost at about $10US, plus a few layers of profit... It strangely comes to pretty much the value Jobs was quoting.

Regardless of the iPhone, I am really hoping for some decent new phone data/voice combo plans. Hopefully the iPhone pushes this a bit more in Australia.

24 June 2008, 1:14 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Dan Warne (Administrator):

$100 of parts? I don't think so... the screen in the iPhone is one of the biggest, highest resolution panels with best contrast and colour... that alone would be a very expensive part. Not to mention the GPS receiver, the HSDPA capable 3G chipset, optical-grade glass front, etc.

24 June 2008, 2:53 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

techdribble (User):

Not until they increase the capacity. I have a 80GB classic because I like to carry my whole collection rather than have to pick and choose. I dont watch video on the classic and didnt on my 16GB Ipod touch that is now sitting unused on my computer desk so to certain extent the screen is irrelevant for me. I prefer clam shell phones(currently Razr v9) and I wasn't that impressed with the ipod touch interface that I would consider an iphone or any other smartphone at this stage.

24 June 2008, 3:48 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

pedzzzz (New user):

what is the difference between the first genertaion iphones in u.s and the ones brought out in australia?
How come the iphones brought out now in Aus are so much cheaper than the original ..?


24 June 2008, 7:17 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TamaraD (New user):

pedzzzzz - The new phones coming out in Australia are 3G. In the US the 1st gen were only 2.5G.

I would never buy an iPod, not in a million years. The Creative players are far superior. So there's no way I'll buy an iPhone.

24 June 2008, 9:03 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

camandco (New user):

key point: its not actually cheaper because you have to sign up to a contract or pay heaps more for a contract-free iphone... so No it probably won't kill the iPod!

24 June 2008, 9:06 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

mathnerd88 (New user):

camandco...I heard that the price per month for the iphone plan has increased maybe 20 percent...In the long run you are paying more for an iphone 3g than the 1st gen iphone. It is a tactical ploy that many people will miss when enticed buying an iphone for 199.

25 June 2008, 4:37 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Kristian (User):

The entire idea is stupid its like suggesting the notebook will kill the desktop, although there is an increasing notebook markets, desktops are still more effiecient in the budget categroy and for gamers, power users and graphics designers who require computer muscle. The iphone should be viewed as another category of ipod and will possess no more ability to kill off the ipod than the ipod mini or nano possesses.

23 October 2008, 1:03 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

evian (New user):

if iphone want to kill the ipod , it should cooperate with strong company as well . So that it will be stronger to challenge ipod.
http://www.yoytrade.com

30 May 2009, 1:32 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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