Windows 7 launch to have “minimal impact on PC growth”

todd_h86 (User):

How long did it take for XP to take over 98?

todd_h86 (User):

How long did it take for XP to take over 98?

Aubrey (User):

The GFC would be be real problem for anyone trying to launch a new product right now. CIOs will be trying to wring yet another couple of years out of existing capital equipment and would be also avoiding the additional training and licensing costs of a new OS - even if it ran OK on their pre-vista machines.

I guess MS has enough cash in the warchest to ride out a couple more ordinary years - but that may come at the cost of lower R&D. Can they really afford to slow down their OS release cycle?

Raindog (User):

Quoting Aubrey:
The GFC would be be real problem for anyone trying to launch a new product right now.

but utimately that can only be a good thing. Hardware purchasing for the sake of it and all those infernal conferences have been moved way to the back of the disgressionary spend list.


Quoting Aubrey:
I guess MS has enough cash in the warchest to ride out a couple more ordinary years

And that is the not so good thing, while many corporates may ride out a down-turn, it's not so easy for the smaller suppliers. It must be dire times indeed in the triangle sandwiches industry, with the GDIJCC (Global downturn in junket conferences crisis) still showing no signs of easing.

Only time will tell which small businesses fail to survive and which multi-national have enough warchest to maintain the status-quo.

Tony23 (New user):

Well, I've been happy to add to MS's revenue decline. With their pricing in Australia my view is just vindicated. I've gone from a 4*winbox house to a a no-box windows hourse. And, I'm an advocate for Ubuntu wherever I go. I wasn't born this way; being treated like crap by microsoft with high prices, crap products and poor functionality created me. Bravo to the marketing boys in redmond.

apt.pupil (User):

Quoting Tony23:
Well, I've been happy to add to MS's revenue decline. With their pricing in Australia my view is just vindicated. I've gone from a 4*winbox house to a a no-box windows hourse. And, I'm an advocate for Ubuntu wherever I go. I wasn't born this way; being treated like crap by microsoft with high prices, crap products and poor functionality created me. Bravo to the marketing boys in redmond.



lol. it must just be me then.

Eveery single time i cross the open source threshold, i find either my RAM or HDD fails, and then needs replacing.

im glad i can pay nothing for a half- cooked OS which requires me to use WINE to partially run my software(such as winamp pro- to which in 2 years of on and off trying- never seems to work properly in either Ubuntu or Kubuntu- the Media Library gets bugged out), and i can not play pc games, because of the DX issues WINE has.

whereas with microsoft- at least i get a BSOD to tell me what piece of harware has failed. so far, Linux has only jammed and not notified me what is wrong- so it comes down to trial and error to see what goes haywire.

with windows 7, should i get the inevitable BSOD- windows will ask if i want to launch the startup repair console- and no repair CD/DVD is needed.

i will be shelling out for windows 7 ultimate upgrade- but no straight away. I aim to afford it by December, which will be good timing.

Aubrey (User):

Quoting apt.pupil:
m glad i can pay nothing for a half- cooked OS which requires me to use WINE to partially run my software(such as winamp pro- to which in 2 years of on and off trying- never seems to work properly in either Ubuntu or Kubuntu- the Media Library gets bugged out), and i can not play pc games, because of the DX issues WINE has.

No comment on your RAM and HDD experience - weird. I've used a variety of Linux LiveCDs to rescue several Windows equipped doorstops.

I don't use WINE as I have always found a native Linux app suitable for my needs. What does Winamp-pro do that a program like Songbird, Rhythmbox or Exaile not do equally well?. I can understand if you were talking about a bespoke $10,000 design or accounting program that was essential to your business, but music players, burners and converters are pretty standard fare on all OSs.

I believe you are probably right about many games. That's why many kiddies dual boot with XP until they reach puberty.

Raindog (User):

Quoting Aubrey:
That's why many kiddies dual boot with XP until they reach puberty.

Isn't it until they become enlightened?

apt.pupil (User):

Quoting Aubrey:
What does Winamp-pro do that a program like Songbird, Rhythmbox or Exaile not do equally well?. I can understand if you were talking about a bespoke $10,000 design or accounting program that was essential to your business, but music players, burners and converters are pretty standard fare on all OSs.

I believe you are probably right about many games. That's why many kiddies dual boot with XP until they reach puberty.


actually winamp pro is the only cheap media centre that fully supports not only proprietary formats, but also my lossless audio codecs, as well as being able to use a 48 channel mixer so i can use it as my music station in my home.

as for the games- there is no way i will sacrifice my 4850's somewhat mid- range capabilities to play games that require DX on a system that isn't able to use it.

also- i have been trialling windows 7 since the beginning and i have seen more than enough improvements- not just the marketed aesthetic stuff- but the easier to access error logs, the startup recovery no longer needing a boot disc, the way i can browse my most recent documents and pages by using the active taskbar.

and on top of all that- i have to say that the wobbling windows you can get in ubuntu doesn't match up to the usefulness of windows snap.

i could keep going on and on about all the tiny improvements since vista and XP, but i will finish up quickly by saying that i have not seen a windows OS this satisfying to use from the get- go since windows 95.

The Big Baboo (User):

Quoting Aubrey:
Can they really afford to slow down their OS release cycle?

Speaking of cycles there young "Aubrey" I've often wondered whether Microsoft are pre or post menstrual and can anything really be done about this or should we even bother to try :)

Aubrey (User):

Quoting The Big Baboo:
Speaking of cycles there young "Aubrey" I've often wondered whether Microsoft are pre or post menstrual and can anything really be done about this or should we even bother to try :)

Hold off on the "young" there, BB. Many summers have past since I was "young".

I would identify Balmer's behaviour as early menopause. Especially the chair thowing. And hormone therapy delivered through the MS water supply would be more than appropriate - although each employee should certainly get a pop-up window on the tap asking them which particular hormone they'd like to install.

The Big Baboo (User):

Quoting Aubrey:
Many summers have past since I was "young".

Heh Heh You're as young as you feel "Aubrey" Why me meself will turn 60 next year and there's gonna be such a rave-up that I'm gonna get in touch with all my mates from all over Oz and the beer ( and other stuff ) won't stop flowing for a fortnight and then we'll restock :)
As for the "Microsofties" well :) they're not invited but I guess one or two might sneak in through some sort or entry point or other ;)

Aubrey (User):

Quoting The Big Baboo:
Why me meself will turn 60 next year


OK. You beat me by just under a decade, BB. which mean I have less than five years to honour my promise to myself that I would bow out of the workforce with a party on my private yacht in the Greek Islands. Oh God: I'll be lucky to have a plastic boat in a wading pool. Enjoy the rave-up! Any Microsofties that do turn up should have to sign an End User Licence Agreement for the beer. I'd love to see one of those!

Raindog (User):

Quoting Aubrey:
Oh God: I'll be lucky to have a plastic boat in a wading pool.

Well you voted for them ... :>