Windows 7 may slow PC sales

Angus Kidman18 August 2009, 2:50 PM

Vista may have been a groaning, hefty beast needing fast hardware, but Windows 7's snappy performance on older computers has the computer industry worried.


Windows 7's ability to run relatively well on older systems is potentially bad news for the PC industry -- manufacturers are going to have a hard time convincing users to upgrade their hardware, especially in the cash-strapped business market.

"There's a lot of interest in terms of Windows 7 performance," said Ross Gangemi, technical consultant for Dimension Data. "In the testing we've done, Windows 7 has been outperforming XP on a 4 or 5 year old piece of hardware."

That raises the likelihood that companies might consider upgrading their OS while keeping older hardware, rather than updating the two in parallel. "One of the big questions from customers is whether a Windows 7 deployment will save them from having to upgrade their platforms for another 12 months," Gangemi told APC.

"That's not something that the OEMs are going to be pleased about, but we're seeing a lot of people having a look to see if the performance gains from 7 without the hardware add up. People are doing a lot of testing to see what the performance increase is."

The performance improvements are dramatic enough that users aren't likely to complain about not getting a machine upgrade, Gangemi suggested. "They're going from a XP environment that takes five or six minutes to boot to a minute twenty. The resume from sleep is almost instantaneous."

One possible bright spot might be users who skipped Vista entirely because of its shoddy reputation. There's no direct upgrade path for migrating an XP system to Windows 7: data has to be migrated separately before the OS is freshly installed. That means that whether users want to keep their existing system or buy a new one, they'll absolutely have to back up their personal information before doing so. (Of course, you should always back up your data before doing an in-place upgrade, but in reality people often don't.)

In the corporate market, specialised tools like Dimension Data's Dynamic Systems can be used to automate large-scale migrations from one version of Windows to another. While the desktop scenario remains fairly unfriendly, Gangemi says that moving from older Windows Server releases is less complicated. "We've upgraded a couple of customers recently from [Windows Server] 2000 to 2008 and it's been a pretty painless process," he said.


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Tin (Senior Forumologist):

99% of Windows licenses sold to home users and small to medium business are OEM licenses included with a PC. These groups are highly unlikely to attempt to upgrade to Windows 7 unless it's on a new PC.

Larger businesses with IT budgets and license deals will probably upgrade after testing. However with the bad taste of Vista in their mouths, many my stay stuck firmly in XP. Especially those with custom software that won't run on Vista/7 and has no upgrade plans. Both of these really tend to lean towards limited hardware purchases...

18 August 2009, 5:45 PM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

BrownieBoy (User):

"Windows 7's snappy performance on older computers"??

Do you even read your own magazine, Angus?

Maybe you should check out the August edition (correction: not the Sept edition as I originally said). The headline story is all about how Windows 7's performance on older hardware isn't so "snappy" after all.

18 August 2009, 6:28 PM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

franko12345 (User):

Quoting BrownieBoy:
"Windows 7's snappy performance on older computers"??

Do you even read your own magazine, Angus?


What a laugh. Just finished reading that article and then Angus comes out with this drivel / free advertising. Windows 7 might start up quickly, but you still need at least 2 gigs to actually run any software.

18 August 2009, 6:48 PM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

todd_h86 (Cornerstone member):

Quoting franko12345:
but you still need at least 2 gigs to actually run any software.


And with RAM so cheap, who cares!

18 August 2009, 8:13 PM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

I think it's good that he's reporting both sides of the story. Guys, Windows 7 is pretty damn fast. Especially in comparison to Vista.

19 August 2009, 12:41 AM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

franko12345 (User):

Quoting todd_h86:
And with RAM so cheap, who cares!

The story is that Windows 7 can replace XP on old machines. I have a PIII 900 where the motherboard cannot even take 1 gig of ram. So this machine will either stay with XP or move to Ubuntu. I am sure there would be many families in the same boat.



19 August 2009, 11:51 AM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

gankul (Cornerstone member):

I gues it depends

Is he talking about snappy with all aero and graphical features turned off and so forth?

win 7 is stil more secure then xp, so even haveing all the pretty effects, it may be a nice upgrade...though who know.s

19 August 2009, 4:11 PM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

K (Cornerstone member):

I think the deciding factor is cost. Not just the cost of upgrade licences, but the cost of the enterprise to migrate an entire system, including labour charges for IT. Given current prices for basic workstation hardware, it may be more economical to bite the bullet and buy new terminals with Win7 installed - especially if the enterprise has already delayed hardware upgrades for several years.

20 August 2009, 8:58 AM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting K:
it may be more economical to bite the bullet and buy new terminals with Win7 installed

You are quite correct in that it is TCO. It's even more economical to buy new hardware with COA licensed XP pre-installed, and thats what a great many corporate customers are doing and will continue to do.
Larger corporation have more push and are less likely to be bullied by any vendor. The need for continued PC sales for the corporates will continue regardless of OS installed.

20 August 2009, 9:16 AM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Raindog:
Larger corporation have more push and are less likely to be bullied by any vendor.


Yep... And if MS try to bully anyone now, it's far more likely they'll simply make plans to migrate to another vendor. If you're going to have to retrain and rewrite software anyway, you may aswell switch to the platform you feel works best.

20 August 2009, 10:32 AM (7 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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