Windows 7 pricing, the haggling begins

Geoff Spick16 June 2009, 2:05 PM

At every level of retail, the knives are out as customers look for their pound of flesh from Microsoft in the new era of OS pricing


It must be an odd sight, Microsoft proudly waving its shiny new OS at its Windows partners from the past two decades, only for those partners to start digging trenches, making demands and generally not playing the loving buddy. In the past, they had little choice, as Windows was largely the only game in town.

Now, we live in an era of free operating systems, budget laptops where pricing means every cent counts and where Microsoft has a vibrant competitor in Apple. So, its not a surprise to see stories like this, indicating that Microsoft really won't get its own way when selling Windows 7 to the trade, or the consumer.

With other recent news indicating that the Android OS may yet be a major competitor in the netbook market, it increasingly looks like Microsoft will be excluded from the only growing segment of PC sales. Sure, the huge desktop corporate market, full-spec laptops and new home desktops will remain its preserve, but if these markets remain depressed, Microsoft will not be raking in the cash it expects to make.

One unlikely source of income could from the many Mac users who seem happy to install the Windows 7 RC on their shiny Apple machines. How many of them can be tempted to swing both ways with a nice boxed copy of a Microsoft OS?

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McBanjo (User):

I've Boot Camped into Windows 7 RC1 twice now. What a waste of download quota that was. I'd pay maybe $50 for a full copy of W7, tops. No wait, I'll be paying that for Snow Leopard. I'm so not sorry Microsoft.

16 June 2009, 2:55 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TV Bis (User):

McBanjo you are never going to get W7 for less than $200 so if I were you I would just buy your Snow Cat software and be happy.............

16 June 2009, 4:01 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

Quoting TV Bis:
and be happy.............

You make a good point. Because nobody can be happy with W7. No Expose, Dashboard, Time Machine.....ugh, I don't have time for this. Don't buy into Microsoft BS! kthxbai.

16 June 2009, 5:52 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

MJD (User):

Quoting McBanjo:
You make a good point. Because nobody can be happy with W7. No Expose, Dashboard, Time Machine.....ugh, I don't have time for this. Don't buy into Microsoft BS! kthxbai.

You are so full of it McBanjo. There are plenty of people who are really looking forward to Windows 7 and wouldn't use Mac OS if you paid them. I know because I am one of them!




18 June 2009, 9:28 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting McBanjo:
ugh, I don't have time for this

pity you weren't too busy to whip up another us vs them cat-fight again. By all means make considered comparisons with other OSs, point out actual strengths and weaknesses, but what is the point of bashing an OS you have little or no interest in using?

You prefer MACs yeah we get that, but do you have any sensible comment about Windows 7 to offer?


18 June 2009, 10:48 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

todd_h86 (Cornerstone member):

Quoting McBanjo:
I'd pay maybe $50 for a full copy of W7, tops. No wait, I'll be paying that for Snow Leopard

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Except for $50 your will only get the upgrade, your logic seems flawed mcbanjo....

An upgrade isnt a 'full copy' in licensing terms, its an upgrade....



16 June 2009, 5:04 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

Quoting todd_h86:
your logic seems flawed mcbanjo....

You're right, buy a now discounted Macbook Pro and they include Snow Leopard for free. Oh and I forgot to mention, Snow Leopard will be released first anyway. Seriously, it's a no-brainer.

16 June 2009, 6:06 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jake (User):

Quoting McBanjo:
Snow Leopard


why do we want snow leopard when it;s jsut another version of leopard which is another version of os 10.
i dont need anything mac, i live just fine with windows 7 which is another version of windows nt

18 June 2009, 11:15 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jake (User):

Quoting McBanjo:
Snow Leopard


why do we want snow leopard when it;s jsut another version of leopard which is another version of os 10.
i dont need anything mac, i live just fine with windows 7 which is another version of windows nt

18 June 2009, 11:15 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Senior Forumologist):

If they don't drop the price significantly (for retail), then they're going to keep losing customers to other platforms and piracy. They still don't get it...

16 June 2009, 2:58 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

todd_h86 (Cornerstone member):

Quoting Tin:
They still don't get it...


And with no official word on price either do you by the looks of it!


From all the press and the leaked pre-purchase deals in the US it does look like MS is aiming for a Vista like price, which would really be the biggest mistake they could do. I can only hope and cross my fingers and burn some candles and hope they make it cheaper! Im not asking for them to give it away, but for at least under $200 for Professional or 'Ultimate' and maybe $150 for Home Premium would be nice!

16 June 2009, 5:07 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Tin:
If they don't drop the price significantly (for retail), then they're going to keep losing customers to other platforms

Not just retail, the whole cost/licensing equation needs a re-think. The enforced cost penalty of MS version changes along with the deliberate redundancy of of older versions is raising more than a few eyebrows for cost conscious businesses.


18 June 2009, 10:36 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Halcon (Advanced member):

Bah! I challenge Microsoft to put a better pricing, No more than $100 and a licence for 5 computers!
After all, Microsoft has made a lot of money, it does not deserve it.
Don't ask why, because this software will get a little lifespan, and then a new version!
Only the stupid would go and buy higher price.
I will cling to Windows XP for as long as I can or use Fedora 11 Linux.
There is no incentive from that scum of a company named microsoft!
Microsoft will lose money if trying to do the same as with Vista, nobody will buy it, just a few.

16 June 2009, 5:32 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

shrike (User):

It would have to be very reasonably priced for me to buy it and put it on my mac. I've used the beta and rc1 versions and I will say it's the most that I've enjoyed using Windows in a long time, but if Microsoft think people will pay $200+ for the privilege then they haven't learned anything from the Vista clusterfrick

16 June 2009, 6:39 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Halcon (Advanced member):

Believe me, people never learn, a lot of them are salivating to get the product to high price.
I find it an absolute waste of money, unless Microsoft is willing to offer the users a better pricing and conditions that should be more than satisfactory.

16 June 2009, 10:40 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AlexF (User):

You just got to love Linux proponents - they're so passionate it's bordering on delirious.
Haven't netbook and OLPC history convinced you that Linux will NEVER be a consumer OS? What the heck more do you want?
I think Linux is great - I run my Oracle in Xubuntu beautifully, but as a consumer OS it sucks. It sucks and it'll never be anything more than back-end OS. FFS, give up and move-on to more worthwhile causes!


17 June 2009, 1:48 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Aubrey (Advanced member):

Whaaat? All the posters above you were comparing Win7 to XP or Mac OS - no mention of Linux at all. As a Linux Fanboy, I quite like Win7 (in a VM, of course - I wouldn't let it actually touch my hardware) but I honestly can't see where the value for money is at MS's prices.

Windows is a gamers OS now anyway. Eveyone else is moving on. My 79 year old father has even moved to Linux.

And I don't think netbook history can be written just yet (The OLPC died when it went over to Windows and good riddance). I just received my new Dell Latitude 2100 with Ubuntu preinstalled and it it a thing of much beauty (even before I hack it beyond recognition). That last bit is irrelevant. I just had to tell someone.

17 June 2009, 4:28 PM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

AlexF (User):

Quoting Aubrey:
Windows is a gamers OS now anyway.

Not sure what planet you're from, but as far as I can tell, on Earth, all corporate (as in 99%) front-end desktops and notebooks are running Windows. Which, by the way are using Intel's integrated graphics, which can't handle games beyond Wolfenstein3D.

I admit, being an almost unused OS has some advantages - for one, it takes Linux off the radar for hackers and virus writers, so, it's good news for some that do perservere with it.

The funny thing is that even after declaration of love for penguin, Linux users are still whinging about MS/Windows; I mean, if you found a satisfying replacement, why complain about something you left behind? He he..

18 June 2009, 8:32 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting AlexF:
but as far as I can tell

hardly an accurate reference!



Quoting AlexF:
all corporate (as in 99%) front-end desktops and notebooks are running Windows

ALL eh? Oh that's right it's as far as you can tell isn't it? So that other 1% covers the the predominant usage of MACs within the publishing sector? And i suppose all those corporate utilities adopting Open Source software also fit into you concocted 1%?


Quoting AlexF:
Which, by the way are using Intel's integrated graphics

All of them huh? more sweeping an inaccurate generalisation.



Quoting AlexF:
I admit

you have lots to admit, rudeness and insecurity being a priorities for admission.

Quoting AlexF:
The funny thing is

The unfunny thing is your inability to accept an alternate and perfectly valid point of view!


Quoting AlexF:
I mean, if you found a satisfying replacement, why complain about something you left behind?

I mean if your satisfied with paying through the nose and being driven by the whims of a software vendor, why complain about those with the good sense to seek out alternatives that better suit their needs?


Quoting AlexF:
He he

sad really! Nothing funny about pointless fan boy attacks.


18 June 2009, 10:25 AM (9 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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