Windows 7 Netbook edition?

David Flynn04 November 2008, 4:00 PM

Microsoft puts netbooks on the Windows 7 menu and mulls plans for a cut-down ‘Netbook Edition’ of the OS


Yes, you read the heading correctly – Windows 7 is headed for netbooks. Microsoft’s post-Vista overhaul of the OS aims to ensure that Windows 7 can run just as well on netbooks, with their limited processing power and storage, as on fire-breathing desktop PCs.

Windows chief Steven Sinofsky drive the message home with his on-stage demo at last week’s PDC conference in Los Angeles of Windows 7 running on a debranded Lenovo IdeaPad S10 – a typical netbook system build on the common foundation of an Atom N270 processor and 1 GB of RAM, although Sinofsky later revealed his had been bumped up to 1.5GB.

Sinofsky claimed the demo netbook still had about half its memory after booting Windows 7, which isn’t too bad for a pre-beta build of an OS derived from Vista, and that it ran pretty well.

“We're pretty excited about the work that we’ve done on performance, and I’m pretty excited about this class of machine and the work that we can do to deliver Windows 7 on those machines” Sinofsky said.

Laptop magazine writer Joanna Stern put this to the test by installing the same Windows 7 build (here’s how to get your own copy of the Windows 7 pre-beta, by the way)  onto an Asus Eee PC 1000H powered by the same 1.6GHz Atom processor with 1GB of RAM. Stern says that indeed, Windows 7 on its own claimed just 485MB of RAM, as well as booting in slightly less time than it took Windows XP on the same machine.



Windows 7 chief Steven Sinofsky, who will be played in the forthcoming epic ‘Microsoft: The Movie’ by Kevin Spacey

None the less, Sinofsky doesn’t feel that Vista or its performance is the reason for XP’s netbook dominance. He blames the limited amount of space on solid state drives favoured by some netbook vendors.

“The key thing that really drove the XP installation where the very first ones of these netbooks tried to have only flash drives” Sinofsky says. “The reality is that, for better or worse, Vista’s disk footprint wasn't going to fit on 8GB of flash. And the reason for that is not anything to do with performance, or bloat or anything. We do a lot of really customer focused things, like we have a gigabyte and a half of printer drivers. So you might not want them, but boy they’re really useful when you need them. We erred on the side of consuming disk space with Vista. What drove the XP desire was to fit on these very small, solid state footprints”.

(We’ll have to agree to disagree on that last one, Steve. While Vista has a larger footprint than XP, there’s simply no room for argument that a straight out install of XP isn’t faster, more stable and less out-and-out annoying than Vista. XP is also more than good enough for tasks such as surfing the Web, doing email and running the sort of undemanding applications you’d load onto a netbook.)

Netbook makers have largely shunned Vista for the tried-and-proven Windows XP, leading Microsoft to hobble XP-based netbooks with artificial restrictions such as a maximum 1GB of RAM (although buyers can upgrade to the full 2GB supported by the Atom chipset), a 1.6GHz processor and 160GB hard drive – enough for the device’s intended lightweight purpose but not sufficient to threaten sales of fully-featured vista laptops.

Even so, every XP licence which Microsoft sells to a netbook manufacturer delivers less cash into Microsoft coffers compared to a Vista licence. And with netbook sales set to soar as the segment becomes one of the industry’s few real growth categories, at the same time as revenue from Microsoft’s Windows franchise inched up a mere 2% in the most recent quarter, this is cash which Microsoft can’t afford to lose.

So part of Windows 7’s job is to reclaim the netbook market from XP. This may even extend to Microsoft creating a separate Windows 7 Netbook Edition for OEMs in which the operating system is stripped back and streamlined for netbooks.



vLite is the ideal tool for cutting Vista down to suit a netbook’s modest horsepower, memory and storage space

The process would remove everything that a desktop  PC needs but a netbook doesn’t, and that’s plenty. Netbook enthusiasts already use tols such as vLite, (sibling to the popular nLite for XP) to customise Vista by removing components as well as services that slow boot time and soak up precious memory. The result of this ‘laptop liposuction’ makes Vista substantially faster in every respect as well as recovering limited disk space. We’re wondering how long it’ll take before something that might be called ‘7lite’ appears...



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tim2hawkes (User):

Can you minimise the current beta
i want to try it on


04 November 2008, 4:41 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

CBR1100XX (Advanced member):

Gee ! We never saw this coming !

04 November 2008, 5:04 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Average Joe (Cornerstone member):

A Diet MS OS capable of running on legacy (old) and lower spec hardware ?
Raindog must be all aquiver with anticipation !
Still no backwards compatibility with XP though !

Maybe this netbook thing is going to be bigger than we expected !

04 November 2008, 5:37 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
Raindog must be all aquiver with anticipation !

He was more than a few steps ahead you, He's been running Vista netbook edition professional when he's had the need for a windows box.

So looks like your psychic powers are on the fritz again.


04 November 2008, 11:54 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

plutonium210 (Advanced member):

Why would you bother with an overpriced, underpowered piece of hardware running a butchered OS ?
The iPhone can do 90% of the things this white elephant can !

04 November 2008, 5:50 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (User):

Including Copy-and-Paste?

04 November 2008, 11:27 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting plutonium210:
Why would you bother with an overpriced, underpowered piece of hardware running a butchered OS ?

Why wouldn't you bother to actually read and comprehend the article? you may have even been able to have a clue if you did?


04 November 2008, 11:57 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (Regular user):

Quoting the articles quote from Steven Sinofsky:
"And the reason for that is not anything to do with bloat."
"...like we have a gigabyte and a half of printer drivers."

Hmmm. Not bloat you say. How does 1.5GB of printer drivers appear to not be bloat when you sit it beside the ~4MB used by the Gutenprint drivers on Linux? The supported hardware list appears about the same length to me (a quick look).

04 November 2008, 8:19 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

jake (User):

sweet, finaly microsoft has pulled themselves together again

05 November 2008, 2:42 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

XKO (New user):

Awesome. It looks like windows 7 is going to be a winner, compared the thorn of resource hungry Vista.

I cant wait to get one of these with a solid state drive.

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09 November 2008, 1:13 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Twan013 (New user):

Sign me up Scotty! My only question is are we going to be able to install this on our current netbooks, or will the only way to get it is to buy a new netbook with it already loaded?

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