Windows 7 surprise: DivX built in

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James Bannan03 November 2008, 8:51 AM

No more trawling the web for the latest media codecs. Windows 7 comes ready to play all your favourite "downloaded" videos.


One of the new features announced at the recent Windows 7 Reviewer’s Workshop in LA is that Windows 7 will natively support a number of popular media formats, so that users don’t have to worry about finding, installing and downloading third-party codecs.

This is an evolution in media support which is similar to the inclusion of native MPEG-2 playback in Windows Vista, providing the DVD playback functionality which was missing in Windows XP.

It's an interesting change by Microsoft, which, in the past, has doggedly clung to the hope that Windows Media Video will end up as the prevailing video format for the internet. It appears to have finally conceded that the vast majority of people are watching downloaded stuff in DivX or Xvid -- possibly a realisation driven by the enormous amount of telemetry data it has collected from users of Vista that it never had access to through XP. It has stopped short of bundling Adobe Flash support into Windows, though, as it develops its own Silverlight technology.

Windows 7 will also support H.264 video and AAC audio. The support for AAC will be welcome news for people with music and video that has been encoded in Apple iTunes, as Windows 7 will be able to play all iTunes media through Windows Media Player.Unfortunately, this won't apply to media that has been purchased from Apple's iTunes store, because Windows 7 can't decode the Apple FairPlay DRM, which Apple refuses to license to anyone else.

The ability to play back these additional formats has implications for new Windows 7 services like libraries and networked media player support, as Windows 7 users can index and search across their iTunes media without needing to use iTunes as the default player, and can send a wider variety of media content to a centralized location.

A more subtle user benefit is that by not having to download third-party codec bundles (which is convenient in itself), users can minimise the inevitable build-up of unverified software running on their systems. Most major codecs are freely available, but you often need to install multiple disparate packages to get the widest possible support for digital media -- or run an 'all in one' CODEC installer which may also come bundled with hidden malware inside. Additionally, these CODEC packages can interfere with other, and the codecs are not necessarily optimised to run efficiently.

By bundling a wide variety of media formats into Windows 7, Microsoft has created an operating environment which negates the need for third-party codecs and should therefore run more stably and reliably. It also brings blanket support for the most popular online media formats, providing an environment in which users can start playing their favourite content immediately.


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Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

By bundling a wide variety of media formats into Windows 7, Microsoft has created an operating environment which negates the need for third-party codecs and should therefore run more stably and reliably.

Hooray, a glimmer of hope that sanity might be at last be beginning to appear in media standards. The current nonsense that has pitted the greed of distributors and manufacturers against the greed of some consumers has done nothing but make using equipment a pain for all concerned.

03 November 2008, 9:31 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

FostWare (User):

Umm, Microsoft? Get over yourself...

If you'd have put divx and xvid in the Media Player codec library, this issue would be moot. WMP will download codecs it doesn't have, by going to MS and downloading it - however MS never allowed the formats everyone uses to be added to the library.

03 November 2008, 9:56 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Average Joe (Cornerstone member):

Yay !
Those aftermarket codec packages are a mish mash of rubbish which will either make you use an old version of WMP or some obscure player which will intergrate itself into every AV app you use ! ...... Like Quicktime ! That thing is like a triffid :)

03 November 2008, 10:07 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Me In Oz (Regular user):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
aftermarket codec packages are a mish mash of rubbish

Ditto !




03 November 2008, 10:52 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
aftermarket codec packages are a mish mash of rubbish

Agreed, but then the whole situation is a mish-mash of rubbish. The proliferation of standards and half standards is a direct result of greed of some who had tried to gouge more than their fair share of returns, by attempting to lock down use of their products.

The reality, too, is you will still need that jungle of different codecs if you wish to view material already out there. Win7 carrying DivX will not fix that situation.



03 November 2008, 12:25 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Average Joe (Cornerstone member):

Quoting Raindog:
Win7 carrying DivX will not fix that situation.

No, it won't ! But it is better than what WMP has now. And MS cannot control greed from others (don't get me started on DRM) !




03 November 2008, 12:51 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

djsflynn (APC staff):

Well, not ALL my favourite downloaded videos -- at least not until Microsoft adds support for Matroska MKV, which is becoming the format of choice for high-def content such as HDTV recordings and Blu-ray rips. But DivX and XviD are a bloody good start!

03 November 2008, 2:57 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Average Joe (Cornerstone member):

Quoting djsflynn:
Matroska MKV, which is becoming the format of choice for high-def content such as HDTV recordings and Blu-ray rips

La La La ......... hear no evil, see no evil ......... ;-)




03 November 2008, 3:06 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

todd_h86 (Cornerstone member):

I just wish they would put in a real player codec, i friggin hate real player!! Thank god the Real Alternative is alive and well!

Too all the people saying Divx in Windows 7 isnt the answer its a step forward for Microsoft, for once they are accepting codecs etc that everyone else has, instead of being the typical MS we all know and acting like it doesnt exist. Don't see it and go but what about blah blah codec, look at it and go hey MS are taking notice of the market.

03 November 2008, 3:43 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (User):

The first good thing I've heard about Windows 7 so far. But this is more something that needed fixing in all previous Windows' rather than a new feature. Next stop: fixing the stupid install/uninstall crap.

03 November 2008, 7:18 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Douglas (User):

Finally! This might mean that I no longer have to put up with those effing annoying codec packs which do more harm than good (Some Vista codec pack actaully screwed up a user account of mine so badly, I had to start a new one: Explorer just kept crashing over and over, and according to problem reports and solutions, it was a DLL related to the codec causing all the problems).

04 November 2008, 1:22 PM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

manitoba009 (New user):

i think all you guys need to shutup and get a Mac!

:)

06 November 2008, 9:24 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (Senior Forumologist):

Quoting manitoba009:
i think ....

Clearly from your reply you did not! Leave the thinking to those with a clue!


06 November 2008, 9:31 AM (8 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

temsa (New user):

WoW! That's amazing !

In some years, Windows will go faster, will better support composition (the "Aero" things, and way more!), will able user to install about any program in two clicks in a package manager, will be bundled with a real office suite out of the box, will have a good internet browser, and will be rebranded to Microsoft Linux!

Woot !

04 January 2009, 12:40 PM (6 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

bobdevis (New user):

Isn't this kind of the the death of wmv/wma then?

All the cool kids use h.264 or xvid/divx plus mp3 or aac in an avi or mkv wrapper for video whenever it is not a Flash movie.

The whole music industry has gone DRM free now, so the push for protected wma files in the "Plays for Sure" scheme is gone. Unprotected wma has never been hot to begin with.
mp3 is best for universal compatibility, aac is best for the quality/bitrate ratio, ogg is best for being non proprietary, flac is best for non-destructiveness. wma is best for... what exactly?

The one compelling thing about wmv/wma has always been the assurance that it will play on Windows regardless of what the user installed.
Now that that sole advantage is gone with W7, who in their right minds will use wmv/wma? It would be like taking extra effort to piss off Mac or Linux users :)



13 January 2009, 8:10 PM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

elverdaderochelin (New user):

I installed Windows 7 Beta and it can play Xvid very smoothly. In Windows 7 I converted a section of a xvid video into wmv using Windows Live Movie Maker. But the best feature so far is I streamed xvid and mp3 audio from my Windows 7 machine to a XP machine using Windows Media Encoder, my WiFi network is 54MB/s and I could stream video with almost DVD quality without issues.

22 January 2009, 3:53 PM (5 months ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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