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Splashtop, which Asus has customised and rebranded as ExpressGate, is one of the more sophisticated and feature-packed pre-Windows environments

Windows 7 to get ‘instant on’ mode?

David Flynn
17 October 2008, 9:25 PM


Microsoft is considering giving Windows users near-instant access to Web browsing, VoIP, video IM chat and multimedia playback without waiting for the entire OS to load.


The significance of the number in Windows 7’s name could take on a whole new meaning.

What if you could stab the power button on your desktop or laptop and within seven seconds be able to browse the Web, use online video chat, make VoIP calls, listen to music or watch a movie? How about being able to check your calendar, look up a phone number in your address book or even run an Office app?

Those are some of the options Microsoft is putting on the table for a new ‘Instant On’ mode. Detailed in an online survey and revealed by Engadget, Instant On is Microsoft’s response to the growing number of pre-boot environments being adopted by PC builders – environments which are almost always based on Linux.

While these began as ways to play music and DVDs, the latest iterations extend to online activities including email, Skype and gaming. Among the more advanced pre-Windows environments are Splashtop, which Asus has customised as Express Gate and is now loading onto all its motherboards, and Dell’s Latitude ON, which appears in the company’s new Latitude business notebooks and even includes synchronisation with an Exchange server.

“Instant On takes your computer from being completely powered down to being usable for a few specific activities in a very short amount of time” cites the survey. “The Instant On experience is different from ‘Full Windows’ because it limits what activities you can do and what applications you have access to.”

“In the ‘Instant On’ scenario, your computer would be usable in eight seconds” the survey explains, but continues that “you would not have full access to Windows or all of your applications.”.

However, ‘Access to Office applications’ is listed among the possible Instant On activities that survey respondents are asked to rate. Others include email, “video chat through an instant messaging application” and “Voice over IP through an application like Skype”.

By baking Instant On mode into the Windows OS itself, Microsoft would make it harder for PC makers to justify the additional cost and resource of implementing a stand-alone fast-boot system.

Most fast-boot systems currently work by loading the pre-boot OS from a dedicated slab of flash memory fitted to the motherboard. Dell’s Latitude ON involves an entire system-on-chip (SoC) module containing its own low-power ARM processor and additional flash memory for storage, so that it runs independently of the notebook’s hard drive or main processor. This dramatically extends a laptop’s battery life when the instant-on OS is used for tasks normally handled by Windows.

Fortunately, Microsoft already has a head start for Instant On in the shape of Windows PE. This is a pared-down version of Windows built around the same kernel and originally used during Windows installation – hence its formal name of Windows Preinstallation Environment.

However, WinPE can also be used to load a useful pre-Windows operating environment – Dell chose WinPE as the foundation for its fast-boot MediaDirect system, which already includes the ability to view PowerPoint presentations and Outlook contacts. One of the advantages of WinPE is that because it has full access to and compatibility with Windows OS drivers it can be configured to use any part of the host PC and connected hardware.

Microsoft would be required to set a new hardware platform for Instant On systems, bake the subset, which could position the Instant On environment in a hard disk partition for low cost or a standalone flash memory chip for speedier access and in the case on notebooks, extended battery life.

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itd (New user):

I specificaly purchased ASUS motherboards in my latest build PCs for this option, we use multiple removable hard drives with O/S in various states of repair in and out of the PCs every day and this minimal instant on O/S means we can get on the net even if we don't have a hard drive or working O/S install handy...

It would be great if Microsoft does this but one feature they should look at including would be the option (and it should be an option so you don't use the extra resources if not required) to allow the main O/S to continue to load in the background while you use the minimal O/S

18 October 2008, 2:03 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Microsoft: Always late to the party with a substandard product.

And WTF is with suggesting Office applications being available? Do they want it to start fast or have Office? I can't see it doing both.

18 October 2008, 9:16 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

CCCMikey (New user):

.. or they could just give us twelve hour battery life standard so we don't have to turn them off in the first place. This would then be a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.

18 October 2008, 12:48 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

itd (New user):

Quoting CCCMikey:
CCCMikey .. or they could just give us twelve hour battery life standard so we don't have to turn them off in the first place. This would then be a solution to a problem that doesn't exist.


I assume you are talking portable PCs when you mention "12 hour battery life" - but I don't really understand your reasoning as to how this would solve a “problem that doesn't exist.” In many instances, such as travelling, even 12 hours may not be enough time if you don't "turn them off in the first place". Leaving your portable PC running just so it is ready when you need it could also lead to all sorts of problems (eg; overheating) if you wanted to carry it in a bag and keep it protected and out of sight, indeed we already have a solution in the form of hibernate (or suspend) mode which is almost as quick as leaving your PC running and consumes virtually no power.

I think you misunderstand the reasoning behind instant on options. "Instant start" is a solution to a problem that many users face, annoyance (or some might say impatience) at waiting for the O/S to boot. When we turn on a TV we get useability almost instantly, some people desire that same functionality with a PC. It is also a great tool if the main O/S becomes corrupt (or doesn’t exist) and if it were designed to consume minimal resources could actually lead to the 12 hours battery life you desire becoming more a lot more common (note however that some laptops do already offer 12+ hours of battery life but are more at the top of the price scale).


18 October 2008, 5:49 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

McBanjo (New user):

Yay, now we can have our computers crash all that much faster! I kid.

18 October 2008, 7:50 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

itd (New user):

Quoting McBanjo:
Yay, now we can have our computers crash all that much faster! I kid.


And maybe we can catch and spread viruses more quickly too...

18 October 2008, 10:01 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Hemma (New user):

Quoting itd:
And maybe we can catch and spread viruses more quickly too...

How long did it take you to come up with that one?

21 October 2008, 9:49 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Probably less time than it took you to come up with that reply...

21 October 2008, 10:43 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting McBanjo:
Yay, now we can have our computers crash all that much faster!

Constructive aren't you!

19 October 2008, 7:53 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

I'm all for the instant-on, and it's heartening to see that MS are finally considering usability issues. But chasing a hardware solution is masking of the real issue.

While any hardware advances will be well received (and these improvements have been appearing at a steady rate) MS also need to make efforts into the efficiency, structure and interoperability of Windows code. Regardless of how fast your hardware is a 3Gb OS core is going to take longer to process than a a 500Mb one. MS has paid no attention to efficiency of their code, these early efforts are encouraging.

You only need to watch the drip feed loading of task items onto a starting windows screen to see what is going on. And the times of these tasks are cumulative. Many don't need to load unless requested, ad yet as it is they are all fighting for CPU cycles at every start-up.

Revising simple things such as removing time outs waiting for unconnected networks, and loading just the code needed to fire the GUI would rapidly speed up Windows boot speed.



19 October 2008, 8:12 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Me In Oz (User):

Quoting Raindog:
... and it's heartening to see that MS are finally considering .....

HOLY CRAP Raindog, this may be the start of a beautiful friendship ;)




20 October 2008, 9:33 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting Me In Oz:
Raindog, this may be the start of a beautiful friendship

Friends. Meh! Friends are simply those who wont purchase their own tools or box trailer. I had a friend once, the experience is very much over-rated.


20 October 2008, 9:39 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Bry (New user):

Sounds great, looks like those laptops using Linux to achieve this instant-on are making MS innovate (aka photocopy).

19 October 2008, 1:21 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Aubrey (New user):

Quoting Bry:
Sounds great, looks like those laptops using Linux to achieve this instant-on are making MS innovate (aka photocopy).


I agree. One of the benefits we all get from increasing Linux penetration is it forces MS to respond to users. In the last six months we have seen:

** Windows XP life extended
** Windows incorporating Virtual Desktops, and now
** Instant On

all in response to features or situations where some users were preferring Linux solutions.

Even small increases in the Linux user-base worry MS and that is a good thing. I don't believe that Linux can or will replace Windows on the majority of machines, but a healthy market share (5%-10% ?) will drive competition and innovation.

However, I also agree with Raindog - fixing the standard boot would be a bigger improvement (At least when Linux distros bloat their boot and DE startup times, you can turn off the services you don't need - or just move to something faster - or get rid of Gnome!.)




19 October 2008, 6:28 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Raindog (New user):

Quoting Aubrey:
At least when Linux distros bloat ............ you can turn off the services you don't need

And that is one of the most compelling reasons for considering open source. Yes many current distros are loaded (bloated) to the gills with stuff you'll likely never want or use. But a Linux user does have complete control over what is and is not deleted.

MS has tried hard to dictate what browsers we should use or what mail clients are intertwined within their OS. No one should need to accept an OS that is intrusive or that attempts to dictate how a machine is used.
Fix the core problems that have prevailed and lose or make less intrusive all of the inane wizards and pop-ups that are the signatures of Windows today. That's the recipe for a move forward with Windows.

And don't forget strong interoperability, MAC and Linux are not going away.




20 October 2008, 7:17 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

berrys1965 (New user):

I believe ITD's comment about virus spread is a valid one. It is surprising how much the Real Time Protection of most virus software slows down a systems performance. Yet it is this virus protection (incl uptodate virus defs) that is often the minimum requirement for authorised connection to many business networks nowadays. Overcoming this and drip loading of the entire system in the bg would definitely have me lining up to try it. Imagine the benefit to the environment if all those systems that are left on overnight atm (yes I am very guilty of this) were actually powered down. A great step forward in my opinion.

19 October 2008, 6:16 PM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Your Average Joe (User):

I also have an Asus motherborad on my desktop at home and have found this feature (Express Gate) is quite superfluous for me. Hardly ever use it as my pc is constantly on and is regularly in 'sleep' mode ready for me to tap the 'spacebar'.
Lets not forget that MS is only considering this feature at the moment and personally, I don't think it will make it into the RTM. Maybe in SP1 ?

20 October 2008, 9:10 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Me In Oz (User):

Quoting Your Average Joe:
have found this feature (Express Gate) is quite superfluous for me.

+1

I have a P5Q Pro and the boot into OS after an Express Gate session is quite unstable. I have found some of my device drivers do not load, such as my G15 keyboard apps.




20 October 2008, 9:31 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

I suspect I'd probably rarely use it aswell, but I intend to get a motherboard with it anyway. Why? Because I often find myself booting the computer back up after forgetting to do something on the web or via email.

21 October 2008, 10:42 AM (4 years ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Truckasauras (New user):

I think this sounds like a great idea to me. There's many times when I just need to check an email, look up an address, check lotto numbers without wanting to wait through the entire bootup process. If it works, and works well, it's got my vote. As one poster said, it would be great to have an option to enter into the Instant On mode and choose for the full boot to run in the background. Check emails, listen to music, chat, browse etc. while you wait.

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