Your NBN questions answered: Are you among the lucky one third of Australians?

David Braue
30 March 2012, 12:15 PM


With stage one of the NBN rollout announced yesterday, there's a lot of questions over who will have access (and where and when).


Eager Australians from Cairns to Albany have been hitting their computers and smartphones to find out if they’re among the lucky ones slated to receive NBN services within the next three years – but two out of three are going to be disappointed.

That’s the inevitable conclusion after the government announced its long-awaited three-year rollout plan yesterday, barely meeting a self-imposed deadline to deliver the details before the end of March. And, if nothing else, those details are ambitious: if all goes to plan, 3.5 million homes, in 1,500 different municipalities, will be connected to the NBN over the next three years.


Stage one of the rollout mapped out, but you can drill down further using the NBN's Google overlay.

That figure represents around one-third of all premises in Australia, suggesting that the entire rollout could be complete within ten years if the NBN rollout is able to get and keep adequate momentum.

With just 18,200 premises now connected to the NBN and far fewer actually getting internet services over the network, that’s a significant goal. Call it 1,100 days, give or take a few – which means the government will have to connect 31,819 homes to the NBN, on average, every day including weekends.

It’s a massive logistical effort that has every chance of going horribly wrong – but it’s also the government’s most firm commitment to progressing the NBN past its halting early days. And, with most of the legal kerfuffle winding down in the wake of the Australian Consumer and Competition Commission’s decision to accept Telstra’s Structural Separation Undertaking (SSU) – NBN Co is now gearing up to put the proverbial pedal to the floor and prove that it will be able to deliver on its ambitious goals.

But with a federal election looming and the disastrous election result in Queensland confirming the country’s swing to the right, Opposition communications spokesperson Malcolm Turnbull will be watching closely, if his statement after the government announcement is any indication.

“Judge Labor’s NBN by results, not promises,” was the title of his missive, in which he called the government’s announcement a “duplicitous and ham-fisted attempt to conceal” the fact that the project is running well behind the rollout timeframes it set in its Corporate Plan nearly 18 months ago.

Turnbull also questioned how many services would actually be connected within the government’s timeframe – and whether its suggestion that the 3.5m target includes suburbs where the rollout will have commenced is designed to boost the numbers even in areas where only preliminary work has been done.

Labor can count on Turnbull keeping the pressure on the government in the leadup to next year’s election, by which point the government is hoping to have nearly 1 million NBN homes connected and able to take services. Whether or not he can spin any failure to meet that deadline into political advantage will remain to be seen, but Turnbull’s analysis is filled with numbers that confirm he will be doing his best.

In the short term, however, the question on every Australian’s lips is a simple one: “When can I get it?”

The answer to that question is relatively easy to come by: NBN Co has set up a Google Maps overlay within its site, so you can search for the status of your own suburb – or find out which mate’s house you’ll have to start crashing at when you want to do some serious web surfing.

To check out your area, click here or skip straight to maps of a few of the areas to be touched in the latest tranche of NBN announcements (this is not an exhaustive list):

CBD areas: SydneyMelbourneBrisbaneAdelaidePerthACTDarwin, Hobart

Rural centres:
New South Wales: Campbelltown, DubboGymea, Lugarno, Wagga Wagga 

Northern Territory: Alice SpringsNhulunbuy, Tennant Creek

Queensland: Cairns, Gladstone, Hay Point, Mackay, Maroochydore, Rockhampton 

South Australia: FreelingKingston SeMurray Bridge 

Tasmania: Devonport, Queenstown, Scamander

Victoria: Bendigo, Dandenong, Healesville, Horsham, Torquay, Werribee

Western Australia: Collie, Donnybrook, Kalgoorlie, Merredin, Southern Cross



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Nian (New user):

And the cost to taxpayers is?
And the monthly cost to householders is?


30 March 2012, 12:56 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pauly (New user):

Quoting Nian:
And the cost to taxpayers is?
when it get sold off eventually it will make taxpayers money

Quoting Nian:
And the monthly cost to householders is?

The same as current adsl for now and much cheaper than adsl within a few years

30 March 2012, 1:07 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Nian (New user):

And your source for this information is?

30 March 2012, 1:13 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Pauly (New user):

its called infrastructure. Funny how noone complains about a power station being built or a highway, yet the government makes no money from these and they cost a bomb to maintain.
NBN will make money and will be relatively cheap to maintain

30 March 2012, 7:07 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

bob zed (New user):

Quoting Pauly:
NBN will make money and will be relatively cheap to maintain

I doubt that, there will be competion via wireless for those that dont need super fast bband - most of the population really, unless we all take to watching tv via internet feeds. Maintenance cost will be high as every time the fibre is dug up in the connection to the home, the repair cost is high. Not so much with copper. Telstra worked out years ago that fibre to a node in the street, then copper into the house was way way cheaper and gives as good performance. Only reason the nutty NMN solution was created was to keep telstra from having a use for its copper connected to your house. Insane really.


31 March 2012, 6:30 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (User):

Quoting bob zed:
there will be competion via wireless for those that dont need super fast bband


BUT wifi per mb is sooo expensive. it should never be an NBN option.

... i can't say the NBN will make money, so much as cost the company less in infrastructure once it's up and running


31 March 2012, 11:02 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Quoting bob zed:
there will be competion via wireless for those that dont need super fast bband


And how will the wireless bandwidth cope? Multiple cells fed by.... Oh fibre.


Quoting bob zed:
Maintenance cost will be high as every time the fibre is dug up in the connection to the home, the repair cost is high.


When was the last time you had your local lines dug up? Only time I know of ANY lines being dug up around where I live was when the FIBRE feed into a place I was working got dug up during roadworks. And that was about 10 years ago.


Quoting bob zed:
Not so much with copper.

True for the dug up scenario... But copper suffers other issues on a regular basis - like when it rains. Copper is also now extremely expensive compared to 10 years ago (in the 5 times the price region). Fibre prices at the same time are dropping as it becomes more commonplace.

Quoting bob zed:
Telstra worked out years ago that fibre to a node in the street, then copper into the house was way way cheaper and gives as good performance.


Cheaper...? Yes. But in the long run, not by much. In reality, Telstra likely would have replaced the copper later anyway.
And don't forget who was CEO at the time of this proposal - it's quite likely it was not intended to better Australia's internet access, but instead to return it to Telstra's monopoly. FTTN would have removed those pesky cheaper DSLAMs owned by other ISPs.


Quoting bob zed:
Only reason the nutty NMN solution was created was to keep telstra from having a use for its copper connected to your house. Insane really.


Oh - Now I see. You either have Telstra shares, or you've been drinking the Cool-aid they offered (or both).

31 March 2012, 11:02 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

TV Bis (New user):

Quoting Nian:
And the cost to taxpayers is?
And the monthly cost to householders is?

Unfortunately we all have to pay for something that is better than what we have now. How can Australia compete with the rest of the world with third world internet standards?
So, if this does ever get finished you will not sign up to use it regardless of cost?
Like everything that has to have money spent on it in Australia, people will be negative about it, but in the end they will be the first ones to use it and say "gee whiz, I am so glad I supported it from the start"!.


30 March 2012, 3:20 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Nian (New user):

Quoting TV Bis:
So, if this does ever get finished you will not sign up to use it regardless of cost?

I fail to see how you drew that conclusion.
I worked in third world countries for over 30 years, I know what bad Internet is, so I am happy to use a good Internet connection. However, good business models have a sound foundation. I am not adverse to paying taxes to fund infrastructure BUT I want to see my taxes judicially spent and I have reservations about the NBN, its implementation and its cost. Blindly paying for something because you "have to pay something" is not sound advice.



30 March 2012, 3:31 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ebone (New user):

My calculator says that 1100 days times 31,819 connections per day is 35,000,900. If that is one third of residences in Australia then we have 105 million residences in this country. So 4 or 5 per head of population. Someone needs to do a bit more number checking!

30 March 2012, 3:19 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (User):

ok... 2 things, the above basically outlines labour electorates. think about that one :)

AND have you thought about it this way - How much does it cost tax payers to upgrade roads to handle the extra cars per day as the population increases to get to work every day?

I THINK it's something like 1million dollars per kilometer of road upgraded or laid. The NBN will decrease the number of ppl on the road, as they will have the ability to work from home, with a connection rate close to actually being @ The office. (TS connection with current broadband is pretty horrible, but we wont get into the technical side of that will we...)

So then they will not have to spend soo much money on roads. Doesn't that make it a good idea? and it's a one of thing. typically. There is subtanically more $$$ Spent in upkeep on a road then a bit of copper.

it cost me $100 in fuel per week give or take to go to work. I'd gladly pay $100 per month, plus the small amount in tax it will cost to have the NBN connected, so i dont have to drive to work every day.

And there's less cars on the road, meaning less green house gases, then there's no need to for the carbon tax.

Win win.

I Still dont understand why the NBN has soo much competion. to me, it outline the short sightedness of Abbot.

30 March 2012, 9:53 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (User):

AND before you start getting all political on me, and say, i'm pro-labor, i voted for the Jedi's :)

30 March 2012, 9:55 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

bob zed (New user):

I am now on optus broadband, can test via optus test page and it gives me about 20Mbit/s download. But surfing on sites clearly usa based for eg and I 90% of time have to wait for page to load - so what difference will NBN really make to real world web surfing?? Please NBN answer this real world question for us.

31 March 2012, 3:01 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

I was pretty pissed off to see Tony Windsor's electorate having massive coverage, but Parkes has just one new place (bringing the total to 2).

It also really pisses me off that each new fibre location I checked seems to already have non-Telstra ADSL2, which means there's less incentive for residents in those areas to jump on immediately anyway.

I just want faster outbound speeds - OPEL would have had that already. But bloody Labor went and killed any chances of us getting faster internet for decades - and if the coalition take on power again, it looks like the whole damn process will start again!

31 March 2012, 9:01 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (User):

one thing that this has done, or seems to have done, is bring down the prices on fibre from non-NBN or Telstra related companys

Last time i looked, exetel had some great pricings for fibre. less then a K per month for 10m/10m I know that sounds crazy for the gen public, but it's the outbound speed that's the kicker.

NBN, even @ it's top speed of 100mbps only has an up speed of 5mbps.

outbound speeds effect someone hosting a servers or websites, or if you have set up a terminal server, effects the number of ppl that can connect before they suffer a speed hit.

i just have no idea what sort of latency the exetel connections are like, (they are perth based), i'm guessing that the traffic will bounce off their servers, which would be horrible for me in brissy.

Quoting Tin:
But bloody Labor went and killed any chances of us getting faster internet for decades - and if the coalition take on power again, it looks like the whole damn process will start again!
That's what scares me. Labour as a party have lost confindence with the country, as they can't play well together. But i sure as hell dont want a man in speedo's running the country either. Seriously, the best move the libs could do to get into power? Sack abbot.


31 March 2012, 9:54 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

ss-rotel (User):

EDIT - should read "a K per month" not per year. dont mind me.



31 March 2012, 9:57 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ed $ (New user):

How will the NBN be hooked up to units in our 40 year highrise on the Gold Coast?
What about Foxtel, will it still go through those same cables to units as they always have? What about those wanting Foxtel in the future?
Will it affect out Digital TV lines into units.
So many questions, yet no where or no one to answer them.
Is there a Government department that can answer them?
Thanks to anyone who can give some leads.
People need to know these things, they affect us or will affect us in our day to day living.

11 April 2012, 4:25 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Tin (User):

Quoting Ed $:
What about Foxtel, will it still go through those same cables to units as they always have?

Why would it change?

Quoting Ed $:
Will it affect out Digital TV lines into units.


What? Why would it?


Quoting Ed $:
So many questions, yet no where or no one to answer them.

Because no one else has even thought of them!

Quoting Ed $:
People need to know these things, they affect us or will affect us in our day to day living.

Ummm. OK. So your day-to-day living involves watching a lot of TV I take it... Here's the low-down then - NBN's rollout is a data network. One day it COULD be used for TV distribution, but that's not the primary aim. No one is going to cut off your FTA or pay TV wall socket connections any time soon.
Does that answer things?

12 April 2012, 12:17 AM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ed $ (New user):

Actually Tin, I am a building manager of a highrise on the Gold Coast.
There has been no notification from anyone involved in this whole NBN process in how it will affect those of us who do live in highrises.
There are thousands and thousands of people who live in highrises so it will affect more than "just me.".
In our Network of Building Managers (aprox 30), not one has has any contact from NBN Co on the process. All Managers and buildings are in the same boat as me.
From my research I have not been able to find any information on the processes and connections into our type of accommodation.
One would assume that part of this whole NBN "thingy" would be to keep people informed on (1) Progress, (2) How these changes will affect them and (3) How the Fibre will be installed into various types of premises. Our building is 40 years old and is somewhat a logistical nightmare getting ready for something as simple as the Digital TV switchover.

From your answers it appears that you think I am some sort of fool, you can rest assured that your assumption is way off the mark.
Anyway, thank you for your time in answering my email.


12 April 2012, 6:43 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

Ed $ (New user):

@ ss-rotel
Thanks for your input.


13 April 2012, 6:16 PM (1 year ago)report abuse Send to a friend reply

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